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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 1:15 AM
We're working on it, but I figured I'd tell a negative story along woth my positive/neutral personal experience.
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Eishi 🍄 BOT 8/5/2023 1:15 AM
I think one of the reasons i feel chill with this life is because it's better than my source's! Here, i don't have as much trauma, and i'm healthy.
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Deleted User 8/5/2023 1:16 AM
we all have very mixed opinions on our characters. same thing goes for our tulpas specifically. it's complicated..
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Eishi 🍄 BOT 8/5/2023 1:16 AM
(Well, healthier.)
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Eishi 🍄 ↩️
Reply to: I think one of the reasons i feel chill with this life is because it's better than my source's! Here…
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/5/2023 1:16 AM
We have a bunch of fictives in our system, most of us don’t really have source memories while some of us do
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Deleted User 8/5/2023 1:16 AM
we are all fictives basically 😅
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i am guessing the source memories are based on what the host has seen (or encountered if it's in a vidya)
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 1:17 AM
Atlas is pretty happy about being here. His life in source was pretty rough, and his loved ones died. Here, he can just relax and be less serious.
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/5/2023 1:17 AM
Most of us have been in the system for 3+ years so we’ve deviated from our source a decent amount
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 ↩️
Reply to: We have a bunch of fictives in our system, most of us don’t really have source memories while some o…
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Siren 🍄 BOT 8/5/2023 1:17 AM
Mhm!
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notafed ↩️
Reply to: i am guessing the source memories are based on what the host has seen (or encountered if it's in a v…
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/5/2023 1:17 AM
We’ve got a ton of villain fictives and they’re absolutely lovely people in our group, sure some of them are a little unhinged but they mean no harm to us
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Nota
i am guessing the source memories are based on what the host has seen (or encountered if it's in a vidya)
Deleted User 8/5/2023 1:18 AM
not always. some of our memories are very different from the source material and were found via meditation or something
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 1:18 AM
Yeah, we’ve got some fictives of people who were morally dubious in whatever media they came from. All of them are decent people who wouldn’t do the things they did then.
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Deleted User 8/5/2023 1:19 AM
we also got those
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 1:20 AM
I’d even go as far as to say that Atlas is a genuinely kind and caring person, in spite of being a fictive of a character who’d kill innocent people for his own personal gain
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗
I’d even go as far as to say that Atlas is a genuinely kind and caring person, in spite of being a fictive of a character who’d kill innocent people for his own personal gain
A long kiss goodnight 8/5/2023 1:21 AM
Atlas is a kind and caring person. He was really nice
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 1:22 AM
He’s kind of an asshole, sometimes./lh
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/5/2023 1:22 AM
Vodka’s someone who we can very much rely on to comfort us through the worst times, in his source he’s an unrelenting murderer and an asshole (he’s mostly Gin’s one note henchman in source but here he’s so much more than that)
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Who pingth
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Siren 🍄 BOT 8/5/2023 1:22 AM
Is best part!
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Iota ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ ↩️
Reply to: He’s kind of an asshole, sometimes./lh
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What if i'm the morally dubious one
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 1:23 AM
All the villain fictives give their evil to Moon before being a part of the system.
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/5/2023 1:23 AM
Gin as well, the guy is even worse than Vodka in source but the Gin in our system is extremely clingy and affectionate, he’s good at comforting people as well. Gin and Vodka are dating in our system and they just melt around each other and it’s hilariously adorable
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Siren 🍄 BOT 8/5/2023 1:24 AM
Wonder if real gin and vodka mixed would taste good 🤔
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 1:24 AM
Owen in his memories was quite the bully when he was a young boy, and into his teens. He acted very poorly towards his brother Iota. Now, he couldn’t be further from that. He loves Iota unconditionally and just wants to be there for him.
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Do tulpa/thonk systems get fictive introjects a lot?
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 1:25 AM
I’m personally indifferent to my identity as a fictive. I’m happy I get to “live a new life”, since my old one was really shitty, but I’m not the kind of person to complain one way or another.
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Siren 🍄 BOT 8/5/2023 1:26 AM
I think, people like characters! So make character tulpas. MLP fans started tulpa a lot!
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Moon ↩️
Reply to: Do tulpa/thonk systems get fictive introjects a lot?
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/5/2023 1:26 AM
I’ve seen a decent amount
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Moon ↩️
Reply to: Do tulpa/thonk systems get fictive introjects a lot?
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1:26 AM
Do somnitives count as introjects?
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 1:26 AM
Are they the ones who form from dreams?
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Siren 🍄
I think, people like characters! So make character tulpas. MLP fans started tulpa a lot!
/mlp/ tulpa threads were something else
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/5/2023 1:27 AM
I feel more like I just have the name and appearance of my source without any of the memories and baggage
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screaming pinkie pie tulpa
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How dare you all discuss fictives while I am at work and can’t be included
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Siren 🍄 BOT 8/5/2023 1:27 AM
Yes...
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 1:28 AM
I’m honestly shocked we haven’t built the entirety of Teyvat (Genshin world) in our wonderland yet.
1:28 AM
What with so many Genshin sons of bitches we have.
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗
Are they the ones who form from dreams?
Yeah, I had one form yesterday
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Siren 🍄 BOT 8/5/2023 1:28 AM
Atlas would perish? From cringe.
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ ↩️
Reply to: I’m honestly shocked we haven’t built the entirety of Teyvat (Genshin world) in our wonderland yet.
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 1:28 AM
I’m not sure. I guess you could consider them one?
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Deleted User 8/5/2023 1:28 AM
it's in the eyes of the beholder
1:28 AM
as most labels are
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 1:29 AM
It’s a pretty world. It would be nice to explore, at least. The world my source character from is similar to Earth, not so much fun exploring to be had.
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Siren 🍄 ↩️
Reply to: Atlas would perish? From cringe. 📎
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Siren 🍄 BOT 8/5/2023 1:29 AM
True! Was kidding.
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Genshin fun and pretty.
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I'd put some warframe environments in my wonderland, if I had a consistent one
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Ohhhh which ones?
1:30 AM
Not the god awful balancing or power creep I hope
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Lua, Void, Earth, Corpus Outposts, Duviri, Sentient warships are my favorite
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Which, is, like, half the game lol
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Ohhh neat
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 1:30 AM
My source world can be roughly compared to 1920’s Earth. It’s nice that everyone has cars and some more ridged gender roles have broken down, but that’s about it. I don’t usually notice myself becoming interested in modern tech unless I stop and think about it.
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Hm, I should add a Venus biome
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Plains of Eidolon is my favorite open world, visually
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 1:34 AM
We have Narukami Island in our wonderland, but that’s like, one single region of one single country of Teyvat.
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We’d explore it more to see how big it is, but we know we’d just create the entire world, and we don’t really want to.
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Deleted User 8/5/2023 1:35 AM
we have a lot of places from fiction tbh
1:36 AM
more notably there is an expanded gensokyo, and the places from monogatari im forgetting the names of. fack
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I just have swamp, normal forest, and beach
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/5/2023 1:36 AM
Our wonderland changes depending on who’s fronting
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Deleted User 8/5/2023 1:37 AM
we have a very big one
1:37 AM
it's... idk how to describe this at all
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/5/2023 1:37 AM
There are a few shared locations like the library that my boyfriend shares with his friends and myself
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 ↩️
Reply to: Our wonderland changes depending on who’s fronting
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 1:38 AM
Oh, we have iota’s house also (which he says was in Teyvat), so I guess you can count that?
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There’s nothing on the outside, it’s just the interior.
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/5/2023 1:39 AM
Yeah the library just is an interior. Valentino added bean bags as the first thing he did
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Valentino also has a couple locations that he’s created, one that only he and his partners are allowed in and the other that he shares with anyone who wants to hang out with him
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 8/5/2023 1:40 AM
We just copy-pasted my canon house into the main region of our wonderland
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The pain area is half-forest, half-grasslands
1:41 AM
There’s like, no actual definitive layout, though. It’s never disclosed in source and I don’t care enough to think about it.
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Izuku 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/5/2023 1:42 AM
Fair enough
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Rusty
Who pingth
A long kiss goodnight 8/5/2023 2:27 AM
You're welcome 😁
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THAT DOESNT ANSWER MY QUESTION
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A long kiss goodnight 8/5/2023 2:45 AM
I pinged you so you could see the fictive question
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Nota
how do tulpas based off pre-existing fictional characters feel about their origin? (edited)
A long kiss goodnight 8/5/2023 2:46 AM
Here
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and yet another question
3:06 AM
when the host does this "imposition" thing, does the tulpa just see their illusion through the eyes of the physical body?
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I don't really "see" things when I'm not switched in
3:07 AM
In fact, sensations of all sorts were really new (and overwhelming) for me at first
3:08 AM
I had an idea of what sight was like, but actually seeing things was entirely new for me. Sight to me, previously, was similar to imagination--I could see things in the abstract sense only
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In terms of what imposition feels like to me, I do have some sense of being present in the physical world, in that I will move around stuff, interact with things by pulling them into the imagined layer, but specific details of what things are like from my perspective have to be made up on-demand
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I only really have the capability to do visual imposition, but I used to have really good physical/touch imposition a few years ago. The experience of visual imposition is basically just open-eye imagination; if you can rotate an apple in your head, imposition is rotating an apple that you imagine in the world as you see it. Physical imposition for me was like the empathetic feelings you can get when immersed in a story; if the character describes something in intense detail, and you're fully immersed in that story, you can "feel" a physical sensation corresponding to that event
3:12 AM
*imagine in the world as you see it, with your eyes open
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iPodMusic1000 [from eries] BOT 8/5/2023 3:12 AM
i wud say that is accurate yeah
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blanka
In terms of what imposition feels like to me, I do have some sense of being present in the physical world, in that I will move around stuff, interact with things by pulling them into the imagined layer, but specific details of what things are like from my perspective have to be made up on-demand
to clarify what I mean by "pulling into the imagined layer," if I want to interact with something, I will conjure it up as an imagined object and start interacting with it. For example, batting around a ball of yarn, by seeing a ball of yarn, duplicating it into my imagination, and playing with it there
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iPodMusic1000 [from eries] BOT 8/5/2023 3:18 AM
oftentimes when its hard to connect to the surface level will just imagine an exact replica of the outer world and sort of apply that on top or treat it as fact or whatever
3:18 AM
hard to explain
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Gray | Shadow System BOT 8/5/2023 3:28 AM
when the host does this "imposition" thing, does the tulpa just see their illusion through the eyes of the physical body?
@Nota - jump Yes, visual imposition is basically hallucinating your tulpa. We haven't achieved that level yet, but it's on my bucket list for the future. If I'm lucky I can hallucinate colored specs on a pinpointed target or a colorful haze in something like celing popcorn.
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iPodMusic1000 [from eries] BOT 8/5/2023 3:29 AM
weve been practicing with shapes and stuff which is pretty easy for us
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weve also experienced seeing/hearing headmates while being half asleep but thats not really what were going for
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Gray | Shadow System BOT 8/5/2023 3:32 AM
I want to wait until I can draw my headmate's forms in greater detail. My headmate's forms change when we draw a new picture of them, and for imposition I think it could be important to have a solid visual to work with. That's my theory at least for one way to achieve visual imposition
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iPodMusic1000 [from eries] BOT 8/5/2023 3:32 AM
it does help i will say
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blanka
I had an idea of what sight was like, but actually seeing things was entirely new for me. Sight to me, previously, was similar to imagination--I could see things in the abstract sense only
berockly (TTG) 8/5/2023 3:46 AM
This is so different from our experience!
3:47 AM
Your experience is therefore and clearly incorrect /j (edited)
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berockly (TTG)
Your experience is therefore and clearly incorrect /j (edited)
clearly
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berockly (TTG) 8/5/2023 3:48 AM
Damn
3:48 AM
Not even gonna fight to be the correct one?
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Not in a fighting mood 😊
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